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	<title>Comments on: A Small List of Things I Wish I Had Known Ten Years Ago</title>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though this blog was posted several years ago, I&#039;ve found it very helpful. Thank you. Deciding to go to a &quot;powerhouse&quot; and rack up debt vs a secluded but cost friendly school has been my biggest struggle. Your personal experience does add realistic value. How much are connections worth is a good question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though this blog was posted several years ago, I&#8217;ve found it very helpful. Thank you. Deciding to go to a &#8220;powerhouse&#8221; and rack up debt vs a secluded but cost friendly school has been my biggest struggle. Your personal experience does add realistic value. How much are connections worth is a good question.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 00:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s true about MFA&#039;s I can&#039;t even find a part time job now and it will be 5 yrs in May.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s true about MFA&#8217;s I can&#8217;t even find a part time job now and it will be 5 yrs in May.</p>
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		<title>By: ly</title>
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		<dc:creator>ly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad I stumbled upon your blog.  I&#039;ve been accepted to a few programs which includes a private, state, and low res program. I&#039;m having the toughest time deciding especially because I&#039;ve been working for the past ten years and have a family. Your advice is helpful.  With the current economy, schools are expensive and scholarships limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad I stumbled upon your blog.  I&#8217;ve been accepted to a few programs which includes a private, state, and low res program. I&#8217;m having the toughest time deciding especially because I&#8217;ve been working for the past ten years and have a family. Your advice is helpful.  With the current economy, schools are expensive and scholarships limited.</p>
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		<title>By: Resident Alien &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Masters of the Universe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Resident Alien &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Masters of the Universe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While their approach is informal, it does give you insight into one of the major opportunities of a MFA: teaching! With certain programs, you can even teach courses at the University and College level. A downside can be found in this entry, A Small List of Things I Wish I Had Known Ten Years Ago; it states that teaching might not be as lucrative or easy to get as one might expect, &#8220;Here’s a short list of the type of job for which an MFA gives you favored status: teaching creative writing.&#8221; So much for easy answers, I suppose. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While their approach is informal, it does give you insight into one of the major opportunities of a MFA: teaching! With certain programs, you can even teach courses at the University and College level. A downside can be found in this entry, A Small List of Things I Wish I Had Known Ten Years Ago; it states that teaching might not be as lucrative or easy to get as one might expect, &#8220;Here’s a short list of the type of job for which an MFA gives you favored status: teaching creative writing.&#8221; So much for easy answers, I suppose. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Armand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Armand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sara-

Thanks for your thoughtful, articulate and balanced feedback.

Armand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sara-</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughtful, articulate and balanced feedback.</p>
<p>Armand</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 02:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m about two months behind on this conversation, but I just discovered this blog today.  Hopefully I&#039;m not talking to myself here.

I feel like I need to speak up for the other side here--the loan takers and part-time workers.  I&#039;m in my third year of grad school (did a year as an MA, then transferred to an MFA) and have taken out large loans every year.  The first year, I worked full time as well, but for the last two years, I&#039;ve been a graduate assistant.  My funding as a GA covers tuition and a small stipend--not enough to even pay all my bills, let alone eat or buy shampoo--so I never thought twice about taking out the loans.  That first year, I probably should have passed on the loans, but I took them and paid off my credit card debt, bought a laptop, and invested the rest.  I thought this was wise because the interest on my student loans is much less than that on my credit cards and is considered &quot;good debt&quot; by credit agencies.

I suppose that I may regret my decision when I&#039;m an adjunct and trying to pay back these huge loans, but I never thought of grad school (especially a degree in writing) as a path to a job.  I had a job when I started grad school and although it paid well, it didn&#039;t make me happy.  Grad school makes me happy.  I&#039;m teaching, which as anything other than a GA I&#039;m not qualified to do, and I spend every day immersed in books and poems and words.  My writing has improved exponentially since I quit my full time job, and so has my quality of life.  I&#039;ve traveled more, met more interesting people, and learned more in the last couple years than in my whole life before.  

I can&#039;t say any of this with the benefit of hind-sight, but I think that the experience I&#039;m having right now is worth any amount of financial burden I&#039;ll face in my future.  If I were still working full time, or even working a part time serving or retail job on top of my GA work, I wouldn&#039;t have time to go to conferences, readings, and other literary events, and I&#039;d be more strapped for time on things like papers and weekly reading.  (And while sometimes I wish I could focus on just one paper, or one book instead of two or three at a time, I often find that my courses compliment each other in a way that taking one class at a time wouldn&#039;t.)

So, to sum it all up, I consider my loans the price that I have to pay for the best few years of my life.  It wasn&#039;t a decision I made lightly, but it has allowed me, if only for a short time, to live the writer&#039;s life, which has been a dream of mine for quite some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m about two months behind on this conversation, but I just discovered this blog today.  Hopefully I&#8217;m not talking to myself here.</p>
<p>I feel like I need to speak up for the other side here&#8211;the loan takers and part-time workers.  I&#8217;m in my third year of grad school (did a year as an MA, then transferred to an MFA) and have taken out large loans every year.  The first year, I worked full time as well, but for the last two years, I&#8217;ve been a graduate assistant.  My funding as a GA covers tuition and a small stipend&#8211;not enough to even pay all my bills, let alone eat or buy shampoo&#8211;so I never thought twice about taking out the loans.  That first year, I probably should have passed on the loans, but I took them and paid off my credit card debt, bought a laptop, and invested the rest.  I thought this was wise because the interest on my student loans is much less than that on my credit cards and is considered &#8220;good debt&#8221; by credit agencies.</p>
<p>I suppose that I may regret my decision when I&#8217;m an adjunct and trying to pay back these huge loans, but I never thought of grad school (especially a degree in writing) as a path to a job.  I had a job when I started grad school and although it paid well, it didn&#8217;t make me happy.  Grad school makes me happy.  I&#8217;m teaching, which as anything other than a GA I&#8217;m not qualified to do, and I spend every day immersed in books and poems and words.  My writing has improved exponentially since I quit my full time job, and so has my quality of life.  I&#8217;ve traveled more, met more interesting people, and learned more in the last couple years than in my whole life before.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say any of this with the benefit of hind-sight, but I think that the experience I&#8217;m having right now is worth any amount of financial burden I&#8217;ll face in my future.  If I were still working full time, or even working a part time serving or retail job on top of my GA work, I wouldn&#8217;t have time to go to conferences, readings, and other literary events, and I&#8217;d be more strapped for time on things like papers and weekly reading.  (And while sometimes I wish I could focus on just one paper, or one book instead of two or three at a time, I often find that my courses compliment each other in a way that taking one class at a time wouldn&#8217;t.)</p>
<p>So, to sum it all up, I consider my loans the price that I have to pay for the best few years of my life.  It wasn&#8217;t a decision I made lightly, but it has allowed me, if only for a short time, to live the writer&#8217;s life, which has been a dream of mine for quite some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Armand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Armand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Lawrence-

Here are two that provide a good amount of support:

University of Alabama. Tuscaloosa:

&quot;...It&#039;s our policy to accept only applicants to whom we can pledge financial support for the duration of their programs.... All of our students qualify for Graduate Teaching Assistantships, which include a stipend paid over 9 months (currently $10,007) and full tuition remission...&quot;

link: http://www.as.ua.edu/english/08_cw/support.html


University of Oregon, Eugene

&quot; ...The Creative Writing Program attempts to fund all admitted students with Graduate Teaching Fellowships (GTFs). Students with GTFs receive full tuition waivers (worth $13,734 in 2004-05), partial payment of student fees, health insurance, and a stipend of $9,314 per academic year...&quot;

link: http://www.uoregon.edu/~crwrweb/faq.htm

I don&#039;t think any school will cover all your expenses, but those cover a healthy portion.

If you just want to write and do not feel the need to explore other related careers options (like teaching) you migth be better served attending a good writing workshop (sans degree) at a place like Grubstreet in Boston (grubstreet.org) or Gotham Writers in New York.

best of luck-

Armand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lawrence-</p>
<p>Here are two that provide a good amount of support:</p>
<p>University of Alabama. Tuscaloosa:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;It&#8217;s our policy to accept only applicants to whom we can pledge financial support for the duration of their programs&#8230;. All of our students qualify for Graduate Teaching Assistantships, which include a stipend paid over 9 months (currently $10,007) and full tuition remission&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>link: <a href="http://www.as.ua.edu/english/08_cw/support.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.as.ua.edu/english/08_cw/support.html</a></p>
<p>University of Oregon, Eugene</p>
<p>&#8221; &#8230;The Creative Writing Program attempts to fund all admitted students with Graduate Teaching Fellowships (GTFs). Students with GTFs receive full tuition waivers (worth $13,734 in 2004-05), partial payment of student fees, health insurance, and a stipend of $9,314 per academic year&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>link: <a href="http://www.uoregon.edu/~crwrweb/faq.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.uoregon.edu/~crwrweb/faq.htm</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think any school will cover all your expenses, but those cover a healthy portion.</p>
<p>If you just want to write and do not feel the need to explore other related careers options (like teaching) you migth be better served attending a good writing workshop (sans degree) at a place like Grubstreet in Boston (grubstreet.org) or Gotham Writers in New York.</p>
<p>best of luck-</p>
<p>Armand</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Clayton, Ph.D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence Clayton, Ph.D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you can see, I already have a doctorate.  I&#039;ve also had a career--as chairman of a behavioral science program.  I&#039;m now retired, but I am interested in doing a MFA in writing.  The problem is that being on a fixed income, I can&#039;t the tuition.  You mentioned that there were school that offered enough financial aid to be essentially tuition-free.  I&#039;m very interested in this.  Can you name a few?

Thanks for any help you can give me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you can see, I already have a doctorate.  I&#8217;ve also had a career&#8211;as chairman of a behavioral science program.  I&#8217;m now retired, but I am interested in doing a MFA in writing.  The problem is that being on a fixed income, I can&#8217;t the tuition.  You mentioned that there were school that offered enough financial aid to be essentially tuition-free.  I&#8217;m very interested in this.  Can you name a few?</p>
<p>Thanks for any help you can give me.</p>
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		<title>By: Armand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Armand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ SE

Glad that it helped allay some of your worries. Keep checking Gordon&#039;s Blog, and let us know what&#039;s happening as you work your way through your MFA program.

Armand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ SE</p>
<p>Glad that it helped allay some of your worries. Keep checking Gordon&#8217;s Blog, and let us know what&#8217;s happening as you work your way through your MFA program.</p>
<p>Armand</p>
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		<title>By: SE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughts about working full-time, including your answers to posters&#039; questions, all of which I found very reassuring. I have no choice but to keep my full-time job and though the MFA program I&#039;m applying to does permit part-time study I&#039;ve been very worried about how I&#039;ll have enough time/energy/stamina (I&#039;m much older than you and most MFA students), etc., when now, without being in school, it&#039;s quite a struggle to find the time/energy/stamina to write. Many people talk about how the great thing about an MFA program is that it gives you time to write but in a way, it has seemed to me, being an MFA student will actually result in my having less time to write. But you&#039;ve made a thoughtful case here for how working full-time can mean being freed up to make the most of the MFA experience. I also like what you wrote about not having time, not having time, then exploding in bursts of writing. Anyway, thanks, you&#039;ve helped calm some of my anxiety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughts about working full-time, including your answers to posters&#8217; questions, all of which I found very reassuring. I have no choice but to keep my full-time job and though the MFA program I&#8217;m applying to does permit part-time study I&#8217;ve been very worried about how I&#8217;ll have enough time/energy/stamina (I&#8217;m much older than you and most MFA students), etc., when now, without being in school, it&#8217;s quite a struggle to find the time/energy/stamina to write. Many people talk about how the great thing about an MFA program is that it gives you time to write but in a way, it has seemed to me, being an MFA student will actually result in my having less time to write. But you&#8217;ve made a thoughtful case here for how working full-time can mean being freed up to make the most of the MFA experience. I also like what you wrote about not having time, not having time, then exploding in bursts of writing. Anyway, thanks, you&#8217;ve helped calm some of my anxiety.</p>
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