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	<title>Comments on: Life After the MFA &#8212; 4 Years Later, Taking Stock</title>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like many here, I stumbled upon your website while literally Googling &quot;After the MFA degree...&quot; and lo and behold, I&#039;m hooked.

I sit here today, age 46, a son who is a rising junior in high school, a wife who has worked for the same media company as a reporter since 1982 and I am Mr. I-Can&#039;t-Seem-to-Keep-A-Job or Mr. What-the-Flock-Will-I-Be-If-I-Grow-Up to some. The inner story I tell myself is that I have many talents I have shared with others through the years. Losing both my parents over the past three years also adds another sliver of angst into the mix.

Like my wife, I have primarily been a reporter, but have taken &quot;detours&quot; in other sectors, moves that proved to help me grow up and expand my mind and learn more about business and nonprofits.

On this very day, I sit here after having turned in my second packet of writing for my second semester of my MFA in Writing Program and I look to the end. Why? Why can&#039;t I just take in the moment of now and be? Losing my job May 20 was not fun, but the handwriting had been on the office wall since December 2009 when the bookkeeper scowled at me and said, &quot;We&#039;re considering closing the whole place down.&quot;

I think what I am trying to say is that I need to find short-term solutions for my life&#039;s financial requirements. If I can do that, the writing will and the other goals I have related to writing--teaching, getting published--will fall into place.

Maybe this rant will inspire others. Screw the economy. Let the passion reign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many here, I stumbled upon your website while literally Googling &#8220;After the MFA degree&#8230;&#8221; and lo and behold, I&#8217;m hooked.</p>
<p>I sit here today, age 46, a son who is a rising junior in high school, a wife who has worked for the same media company as a reporter since 1982 and I am Mr. I-Can&#8217;t-Seem-to-Keep-A-Job or Mr. What-the-Flock-Will-I-Be-If-I-Grow-Up to some. The inner story I tell myself is that I have many talents I have shared with others through the years. Losing both my parents over the past three years also adds another sliver of angst into the mix.</p>
<p>Like my wife, I have primarily been a reporter, but have taken &#8220;detours&#8221; in other sectors, moves that proved to help me grow up and expand my mind and learn more about business and nonprofits.</p>
<p>On this very day, I sit here after having turned in my second packet of writing for my second semester of my MFA in Writing Program and I look to the end. Why? Why can&#8217;t I just take in the moment of now and be? Losing my job May 20 was not fun, but the handwriting had been on the office wall since December 2009 when the bookkeeper scowled at me and said, &#8220;We&#8217;re considering closing the whole place down.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think what I am trying to say is that I need to find short-term solutions for my life&#8217;s financial requirements. If I can do that, the writing will and the other goals I have related to writing&#8211;teaching, getting published&#8211;will fall into place.</p>
<p>Maybe this rant will inspire others. Screw the economy. Let the passion reign.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 02:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@onemeanmfa

Congratulations on your MFA. It&#039;s a good feeling finishing something you started, isn&#039;t it?

Re: your questions -- I applied for a few teaching jobs over the years, but ale ays felt hampered by my lack of &quot;significant publishing record&quot; and the fact I didn&#039;t get a chance to get much teaching training while in school. In short, my biggest hindrance was myself. I just didn&#039;t think I was a competitive candidate. 

I was lucky enough to have a decent oaring job when I finished school (keep in mind I was 35 when I completed so had been spending a few years building my career as a web editor already). Doing the teaching thing was a dream in the side and I pretty much let it go for other pursuits. 

I can&#039;t give you advice to your specific situation, but if you want to teach and you believe in your ability to do it... Well, I think you know where I&#039;m going. Frankly, in just didn&#039;t believe in myself. I think that&#039;s lesson enough for all of us. 

Thanks for commenting. 

Gordon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@onemeanmfa</p>
<p>Congratulations on your MFA. It&#8217;s a good feeling finishing something you started, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Re: your questions &#8212; I applied for a few teaching jobs over the years, but ale ays felt hampered by my lack of &#8220;significant publishing record&#8221; and the fact I didn&#8217;t get a chance to get much teaching training while in school. In short, my biggest hindrance was myself. I just didn&#8217;t think I was a competitive candidate. </p>
<p>I was lucky enough to have a decent oaring job when I finished school (keep in mind I was 35 when I completed so had been spending a few years building my career as a web editor already). Doing the teaching thing was a dream in the side and I pretty much let it go for other pursuits. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t give you advice to your specific situation, but if you want to teach and you believe in your ability to do it&#8230; Well, I think you know where I&#8217;m going. Frankly, in just didn&#8217;t believe in myself. I think that&#8217;s lesson enough for all of us. </p>
<p>Thanks for commenting. </p>
<p>Gordon</p>
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		<title>By: One Mean MFA</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Mean MFA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished my MFA in creative writing and am walking in August. I&#039;ve applied for what feels like a million jobs and hope to hear back from schools soon because, like you, I want to teach. I get nervous though that this may not happen. It does scare me a little to see that you finished four years ago--when the economy wasn&#039;t as bad as it is now--and still haven&#039;t found a teaching job. Did you apply at colleges and universities? Did you get interviews? If so, do you have any advice for some fresh MFA meat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished my MFA in creative writing and am walking in August. I&#8217;ve applied for what feels like a million jobs and hope to hear back from schools soon because, like you, I want to teach. I get nervous though that this may not happen. It does scare me a little to see that you finished four years ago&#8211;when the economy wasn&#8217;t as bad as it is now&#8211;and still haven&#8217;t found a teaching job. Did you apply at colleges and universities? Did you get interviews? If so, do you have any advice for some fresh MFA meat?</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop the whining! I have failed at business many times in my life and considered it a lesson learned. I have fallen in love with the prestige of professions but not the daily grind. If you truly love writing or anything else in life you will spend many hours there and love the challenge. If you work twelve hours a day you will make time for the family and your passions. Do your love is teaching? Volunteer! How do you know? Many times we choose the romance of being someone or something but it&#039;s how we picture ourselves not something we can enjoy sixty hours a week.
I don&#039;t have an English degree but wanted to learn to write well so I have come to your blog and learned quite a bit. History has shown you don&#039;t even need a degree but I am sure it will teach me the much needed fundamentals of writing.  Is it failure writing excellent Ad copy or a How to book? I don&#039;t think so. If you are writing and paying your bills you are a SUCCESS! Most people will never get there.I have a friend that wrote a book of poems and never took a class. That book pays his rent every month. The writing business is like sales or marketing you will spend at least 80% of your time in rejection and failure. I think if you truly want to be a writer you must write and write and write and write. Five, Ten or Twenty years from now it will pay off and you will have found your place in life with the rare privilege of doing something you love....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop the whining! I have failed at business many times in my life and considered it a lesson learned. I have fallen in love with the prestige of professions but not the daily grind. If you truly love writing or anything else in life you will spend many hours there and love the challenge. If you work twelve hours a day you will make time for the family and your passions. Do your love is teaching? Volunteer! How do you know? Many times we choose the romance of being someone or something but it&#8217;s how we picture ourselves not something we can enjoy sixty hours a week.<br />
I don&#8217;t have an English degree but wanted to learn to write well so I have come to your blog and learned quite a bit. History has shown you don&#8217;t even need a degree but I am sure it will teach me the much needed fundamentals of writing.  Is it failure writing excellent Ad copy or a How to book? I don&#8217;t think so. If you are writing and paying your bills you are a SUCCESS! Most people will never get there.I have a friend that wrote a book of poems and never took a class. That book pays his rent every month. The writing business is like sales or marketing you will spend at least 80% of your time in rejection and failure. I think if you truly want to be a writer you must write and write and write and write. Five, Ten or Twenty years from now it will pay off and you will have found your place in life with the rare privilege of doing something you love&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: scp</title>
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		<dc:creator>scp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stumbled across this when I was wondering what the hell i&#039;m doing in an MA program. i&#039;m from oz and don&#039;t have MFA...and where to next. Whether I am completely deluded or whether there&#039;s a point to all of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stumbled across this when I was wondering what the hell i&#8217;m doing in an MA program. i&#8217;m from oz and don&#8217;t have MFA&#8230;and where to next. Whether I am completely deluded or whether there&#8217;s a point to all of this.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jazzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love your blog and the links and the discussion in the comments. please keep blogging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love your blog and the links and the discussion in the comments. please keep blogging!</p>
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		<title>By: 52 Faces</title>
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		<dc:creator>52 Faces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I NEED you to finish your story!  I want to know what you would have done differently as if my life depended on it...

Because it does.  I&#039;m going through a horrific case of Saturn Returns/Why Didn&#039;t I Apply For an MFA Instead of Journalism School conflict of heart and I need to hear the stories of those who&#039;ve been through it!

Thank you thank you thank you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I NEED you to finish your story!  I want to know what you would have done differently as if my life depended on it&#8230;</p>
<p>Because it does.  I&#8217;m going through a horrific case of Saturn Returns/Why Didn&#8217;t I Apply For an MFA Instead of Journalism School conflict of heart and I need to hear the stories of those who&#8217;ve been through it!</p>
<p>Thank you thank you thank you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished my MFA in creative nonfiction, and I haven&#039;t had any luck yet, either. To PhD or not to PhD? In the meantime, how to make money in a reliable way to raise a young family and still leave a space to continue chasing the dream...

I think I&#039;m going to try serializing some of my essays, and maybe even try to do some YouTube entries related to them. That way at least I know there&#039;s a potential audience out there.

I&#039;m convinced that finishing projects is the real answer. Like you, I did a false start on a novel earlier this year, and I&#039;m ready now for attempt No. 2. I think that if I can just finish it, I&#039;ll have a chance. Until then, I&#039;m just like every other wannabe writer who gets discouraged at the teaching job market. In the end, it seems, it&#039;s all about publishing a good book or two. Is that hard? Yes. Is it impossible? I&#039;d like to think that most writers with an MFAs have it in them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished my MFA in creative nonfiction, and I haven&#8217;t had any luck yet, either. To PhD or not to PhD? In the meantime, how to make money in a reliable way to raise a young family and still leave a space to continue chasing the dream&#8230;</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m going to try serializing some of my essays, and maybe even try to do some YouTube entries related to them. That way at least I know there&#8217;s a potential audience out there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced that finishing projects is the real answer. Like you, I did a false start on a novel earlier this year, and I&#8217;m ready now for attempt No. 2. I think that if I can just finish it, I&#8217;ll have a chance. Until then, I&#8217;m just like every other wannabe writer who gets discouraged at the teaching job market. In the end, it seems, it&#8217;s all about publishing a good book or two. Is that hard? Yes. Is it impossible? I&#8217;d like to think that most writers with an MFAs have it in them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t get a good writing schedule, either. I&#039;m a horrible morning person. I&#039;d rather write at night. But I&#039;ve got to work during the day. Since you posted this, have you come to an alternate solution? If and when you do, let me know! :)

I don&#039;t have an MFA but I&#039;m thinking about getting one. My goals are the same as yours. I just found this blog/website today and it&#039;s very informative for me. I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d be better on my own or not. I&#039;ve already got 3 degrees and am in a debt craphole as we speak. I look forward to hearing your comments on what you might have done differently in your life. I, perhaps, think about that too often with regards to my own life...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t get a good writing schedule, either. I&#8217;m a horrible morning person. I&#8217;d rather write at night. But I&#8217;ve got to work during the day. Since you posted this, have you come to an alternate solution? If and when you do, let me know! <img src='http://www.afterthemfa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have an MFA but I&#8217;m thinking about getting one. My goals are the same as yours. I just found this blog/website today and it&#8217;s very informative for me. I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d be better on my own or not. I&#8217;ve already got 3 degrees and am in a debt craphole as we speak. I look forward to hearing your comments on what you might have done differently in your life. I, perhaps, think about that too often with regards to my own life&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Armand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Armand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add this to your list of accomplishments- running a rocking blog for two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add this to your list of accomplishments- running a rocking blog for two years.</p>
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