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		<title>It&#8217;s Nice to Know a Winner</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;d like to send out some congratulations to Armand Inezian&#8211;he who frequently contributes superlative blog posts. Apparently, he won first place in Glimmer Train&#8217;s summer fiction open, and he didn&#8217;t even bother to boast about it. I only found out by seeing a strange spike in incoming links from Glimmer Train. Read Armand&#8217;s interview on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to send out some congratulations to Armand Inezian&#8211;he who frequently contributes superlative <a href="http://www.afterthemfa.com/categories/guest-posts">blog posts</a>. Apparently, he won first place in Glimmer Train&#8217;s <a href="http://www.glimmertrainpress.com/writer/html/index2.asp?action=finalists">summer fiction open</a>, and he didn&#8217;t even bother to boast about it. I only found out by seeing a strange spike in incoming links from Glimmer Train.</p>
<p>Read <a href="http://www.glimmertrain.com/fosummer07.html">Armand&#8217;s interview</a> on Glimmer Train. </p>
<p>Congratulations, Armand. Here&#8217;s hoping some of his winning spirit and devotion to fiction and writing rubs off on the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>How to Submit to Literary Journals &#8212; From Top-Tier to Small Publishers</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In an effort to help us all with the ongoing struggle of literary journal submissions, most of this post was composed over several nights between 11 p.m. and 2 a.m., and I apologize for typos and grammatical errors. On submitting What follows are suggestions for submitting your stories and/or excerpts to small literary journals. Build [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an effort to help us all with the ongoing struggle of literary journal submissions, most of this post was composed over several nights between 11 p.m. and 2 a.m., and I apologize for typos and grammatical errors.</p>
<h2 id="on_submitting">On submitting</h2>
<p>What follows are suggestions for submitting your stories and/or excerpts to small literary journals.</p>
<p><strong>Build an extensive list</strong></p>
<p><strong></strong>I have a list of just over 100 literary and electronic journals that I submit to, and that’s a fairly small list. One guy I met told me that he had a list of 240 (where he found the other 140 journals—I don’t know).</p>
<p>The least number of times that I have submitted a short story before it was accepted was about 12 times. The most was about 65, so I’m of the opinion that you will have to submit a short story—even a well written one—to many journals before it will find a home.</p>
<p>If you don’t have a list you can start with mine (see ‘THE LIST’ below) and edit as needed.</p>
<p><strong>About the list</strong></p>
<p><strong></strong>This list is a little bit of a mess (and highly personalized—I tried to take out my personal comments, but I might have missed some, so if you see some notes that don’t make sense, just ignore them).</p>
<p><strong>Tiers</strong></p>
<p>Entries are divided into 5 tiers according to my (and other folks’) sense of the importance, relevance, circulation, and payscale of the journals. In addition to five tiers, there is a sixth tier for contests. I usually submit to contests between the times I submit to Tier One and Tier Two.</p>
<p>My advice is to start submitting to literary journals at Tier One, then go on to contests (if you are so inclined) then work your way down to Tier Five.</p>
<p>By dividing the literary journals and e-journals into tiers, I don’t mean to insult anyone. There just has to be some way to account for the fact that I would rather have my story rejected first by the New Yorker, then rejected by Bat City Review before finally being rejected by threecandles.org You gotta have publishing priorities.</p>
<p><strong>Word Count</strong></p>
<p>Throughout my list you will see things that look like this: <em>2,000-8,000 words</em>. Other times I might just write this: <em>10,000 words</em>. These are all indicators of the word count that the journal will accept. This is pretty straight forward. If you just see one number like 6,000 words, that means the journal will accept stories of up to 6,000 words. <em>Any length</em> means that the journal appears to have no limit on the word count. <em>Any length</em> could also mean that I was unable to find out whether the journal had a word count.</p>
<p><strong>When you can submit (reading periods)</strong></p>
<p>As many journals are published from colleges and universities, they often have schedules that correlate with academic semesters. Many small journals will not accept submissions sent outside their reading periods, so (unless you like wasting postage) it’s important to know when they are open for submissions.</p>
<p>Again, these notations are fairly obvious. I have attempted to note inclusive date ranges like Sep-May. Year round either means that the journal is open for submissions year round or that I was unable to find information as to when they accepted work. Year round? (with a question mark) means that I guessed that they accept work year round, but in truth, I have no idea.</p>
<p><strong>To contest or not to contest</strong></p>
<p>It is my impression that people are divided about whether you should enter contests or not. This is because—many of you probably know this—most contests hosted by literary journals involve some sort of fee. Some writers believe that contests are a good way to strut your stuff and have editors take a closer look than they might have under other circumstances. Other people just think they are a big rip off. In the end you have to decide whether contests are right for you. For many years, I refused to enter my stories in contests—mostly on principal. Last year, however, I changed my mind. I have come to view contests as a chance to have my stuff taken a little more seriously than when I send unsolicited submissions. And I’ve done okay for myself in that area. So a few years ago, I regarded contests as a waste and now I’m sending them $20 checks. Go figure.</p>
<p><strong>Always update your list</strong></p>
<p>Whether you use my list or make one of your own in your trials to make those literary journal submissions, it’s important to remember that the literary journal scene is constantly changing. Journals move, shut down or change their submission periods. Additionally, there are new small journals cropping up from time to time. I try to add about 6-12 new journals to my list each year by checking Newpages.com, The Writers Chronicle, The Writer’s Market, and other sources. This helps balance out the small journals that have shut down over the years which I’ve had to remove from my list.</p>
<p>Another excellent tool for keeping track of changes in small journals are rejection notes. Rejection notes will often note changes in address or reading periods. For example, for the longest time, I thought that The Iowa Review’s reading period was from Sep-May. Last year however, I got a rejection notice saying that they only accepted work from Sep 15 to Dec 15 (short window). So I updated my list and resent the story after Sep 15. It was promptly rejected, but that’s beside the point.</p>
<p>Tarry no longer—here is the list [Ed. Note -- Armand’s list is so extensive, I have included it here as a PDF rather than posting it all online]: <a title="Armand’s List" href="http://www.afterthemfa.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/armandslist.pdf">Armand’s List</a> (PDF 164kb)</p>
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		<title>Should MFA Programs Shirk the Short Story?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>armand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In MFA programs, short stories are often given the same weight as novels, screenplays and memoir, but things are different in the marketplace. Now, I love short stories, and I spent about five years writing a short story collection, but the market for short fiction is extremely limited. Consider the types of books you buy. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In MFA programs, short stories are often given the same weight as novels, screenplays and memoir, but things are different in the marketplace.</p>
<p>Now, I love short stories, and I spent about five years writing a short story collection, but the market for short fiction is extremely limited.</p>
<p>Consider the types of books you buy. Even writers are more likely to buy a novel or nonfiction over a short story collection. And (in what has become an endless refrain) short fiction journals are very fond of pointing out that more people submit to them than subscribe. (I&#8217;d like to smugly point out that in the last year I&#8217;ve subscribed to <a href="http://www.hum.utah.edu/whr/" title="Fall05Cover">Western Humanities Review</a>, <a href="http://www.missourireview.org/" title="The Missouri Review">The Missouri Review</a> and <a href="http://www.one-story.com/" title="One Story">One Story</a>.)</p>
<p>I realize that the short story is a great format for workshopping. You can read an entire short story in one sitting and (unlike a novel) you can revise it over one school semester, so that&#8217;s handy. Still, should MFA programs also take into account the difficulty in getting these things published and (even if you do get published) how little it pays?</p>
<p><b>Questions:</b></p>
<p>Do MFA programs owe students any sort of assistance or explanation when it comes to marketing their work? Or are MFA programs here to make us better artists, market be damned?
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<p>Publishing for money: What are the odds of getting a screenplay published vs. a short story collection vs. creative nonfiction vs. novel? I have no idea, but I have a sense that the non-fiction market is the easiest to crack. If you want to make money, the most difficult form is poetry. Anyone know for sure?</p>
<p>Are my own thoughts on the short story too negative? Maybe the form will come back. In the 80&#8242;s everyone thought animation was dead- now we have the Simpsons and Family Guy and a hundred other animated shows. Maybe the short story will have a new Golden Age?</p>
<p>And maybe the novella will come back too!</p>
<p>Should MFA programs add a course to their programs in which you meet with an editor and agent and get to ask questions about marketing and submitting?</p>
<p>Should MFA programs be redesigned for longer courses (maybe workshops that last two years) so that people, can carry a novel the whole way through?</p>
<p>Should MFA programs clearly explain to fiction writers that they would be better off (from a marketing perspective) writing a novel?
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<p>Discuss please.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Armand (who often writes short stories)</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve been talking a bit about journals lately: from commiserating with other frustrated voices to listing the usual suspects in high-quality and popular publications. In the process of all this, I just learned about a site that has made me happy. I may be late to the party, but I am digging Duotropes Digest Markets [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been talking a bit about journals lately: from <a href="http://www.afterthemfa.com/archives/maybe-we-should-just-stop.html">commiserating</a> with other frustrated voices to <a href="http://www.afterthemfa.com/archives/most-wanted-journals.html">listing</a> the usual suspects in high-quality and popular publications. In the process of all this, I just learned about a site that has made me happy. I may be late to the party, but I am digging <a href="http://www.duotrope.com/">Duotropes Digest Markets for Writers</a>.</p>
<p>Duotrope is primarily a database of journals and magazines for fiction and poetry. <em>Only</em> about 1,600 different publications. Along with the expected literary fiction, it also includes outlets for the relatively maligned (in MFA circles) genre fiction, like science fiction, fantasy, and magical realism. And there are intelligent ways to find markets that fit your interests, goals, and patience.</p>
<p>I feel saved by Duotrope&#8217;s online submission tracker &#8212; something I&#8217;ve been wishing for since I started trying to use Excel to track my many rejections, and hating the process.</p>
<p>But maybe best of all is Duotrope&#8217;s repository of <a href="http://www.duotrope.com/rtstats.aspx">statistics</a>, showing how quickly and how often publications review and respond to submissions. To my mind this is powerful. But it&#8217;s also dependent on you and me to give them the data. If you write and submit, you should visit Duotrope and let them know about your rejections and successes.</p>
<p>Much love to the folks who put Duotrope to together. On the one hand BookFox calls for a <a href="http://www.thejohnfox.com/bookfox/2007/02/zoetrope_boycot.html">boycott</a> of the #1 slow-responder (which I fully support). But Duotrope also makes it easier to find, support, and frequently submit to the publications that swiftly go where many editors fear to fly.</p>
<p>All this has gotten me very fired up. Time to go through the trash bin of rejections and get recycling.</p>
<p>(Many thanks to <a href="http://www.thejohnfox.com/bookfox/2007/02/zoetrope_boycot.html#comment-60960148">Elaine</a> in BookFox&#8217;s comments for linking to Duotrope. She made my day.)</p>
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		<title>Most Wanted Journals</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>armand</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is my list of the places you would most likely want your short fiction or novel excerpts published. I threw in my comments below. All additional comments or edits happily noted! Antioch Review The Atlantic Monthly (fiction issue): They used to have fiction in every issue, but no more! Esquire: They send nice rejection [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my list of the places you would most likely want your short fiction or novel excerpts published. I threw in my comments below. All additional comments or edits happily noted!</p>
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<li><a href="http://review.antioch.edu/">Antioch Review</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/">The Atlantic Monthly</a> (fiction issue): They used to have fiction in every issue, but no more!</li>
<li><a href="http://www.esquire.com/">Esquire</a>: They send nice rejection letters.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.gettysburg.edu/academics/gettysburg_review/">Gettysburg Review</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.glimmertrain.com/">Glimmer Train</a></li>
<li><a href="http://site.com/">Granta UK</a>: It&#8217;s actually hard to find IRC&#8217;s around Boston, making it hard to submit.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.uncg.edu/eng/mfa/gr/">Greensboro Review</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.harpers.org/">Harper’s</a>: Did anybody read their serialized novel, &#8220;Happy Land&#8221;, last summer? It was great.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.hudsonreview.com/">Hudson Review</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.uiowa.edu/~iareview/">Iowa Review</a>: Iowa&#8217;s mojo is strong. They are king makers.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.kenyonreview.org/">Kenyon Review</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.mcsweeneys.net/">McSweeny’s Quarterly</a>: So hip, it hurts.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.missourireview.org/">Missouri Review</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/">The New Yorker</a>: The biggest of the big. Even Iowa must bow to New York.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.parisreview.com/">Paris Review</a>: Not really from Paris.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.pshares.org/">Ploughshares</a>: Hey, this sounds familiar.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.tinhouse.com/">Tin House</a>: (sing it with me now) &#8220;She&#8217;s a Tin House. Mighty-mighty&#8230;&#8221; They run a great week-long fiction workshop.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.zoetrope.com/">Zoetrope</a>: Brought to you by Francis Ford Coppola himself.</li>
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<p>Enjoy.</p>
<p>Armand</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Book and lit blog, BookFox (which I just discovered from my logs of links to this site) has a post about literary journals and their response times. I quote: I&#8217;ll have a tiny journal like Apple Valley Review reject my short shorts in less than a week, while a heavy hitter like Columbia Journal still [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book and lit blog, <a href="http://www.thejohnfox.com/">BookFox</a> (which I just discovered from my logs of links to this site) has a <a href="http://www.thejohnfox.com/bookfox/2007/01/literary_journa.html">post</a> about literary journals and their response times. I quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ll have a tiny journal like Apple Valley Review reject my short shorts in less than a week, while a heavy hitter like Columbia Journal still hasn&#8217;t responded to a story I mailed out in January 2006 (and neither have they responded to email queries, and my last short story I sent them took a year and a half to receive a reply).</p></blockquote>
<p>Writers should rise up and stop submitting to journals that take over a year to respond. Who cares if they&#8217;re understaffed, backlogged, and occassionally underfunded? I think it&#8217;s fair to say that they have a responsibility to their submitters in addition to their readers. You can&#8217;t have a lit journal without writers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to know why this sort of response time should be tolerated.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that I take the time in my own understaffed, backlogged, and underfunded life to empty out my email inbox at least once a week. Yes, I have things that are left undone, phone calls that I haven&#8217;t made, but I&#8217;m just me. And if I do take a while to return an email, I say &#8220;sorry.&#8221; I may be more prone than the average person to get aneurysms when organizations, companies, and other people don&#8217;t take the same pains to show enough respect to make timely replies.</p>
<p>Imagine if we could charge them late fees like banks and credit card companies&#8230;.</p>
<p>BookFox&#8217;s post does not go so far as what I&#8217;m ranting about. But he does end by saying, &#8220;anything over eight months makes me extremely reluctant to send any more submissions.&#8221; And for that, I commend him. Fight the power.</p>
<p>Read all about it here: <a href="http://www.thejohnfox.com/bookfox/2007/01/literary_journa.html">Literary Journals</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Other Voices is looking for stories to include in an upcoming anthology for its book imprint, OV Books. The collection is called &#8220;A Stranger Among Us,&#8221; and will focus on &#8220;cross-cultural collisions/bonds, encompassing a wide variety of ethnicities, races and nationalities.&#8221; Sounds good to me. If you&#8217;re interested in this, get that story to OV. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.othervoicesmagazine.org/">Other Voices</a> is looking for stories to include in an upcoming anthology for its book imprint, OV Books.</p>
<p>The collection is called &#8220;A Stranger Among Us,&#8221; and will focus on &#8220;cross-cultural collisions/bonds, encompassing a wide variety of ethnicities, races and nationalities.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds good to me.  If you&#8217;re interested in this, get that story to OV. I plan to. Cross your cross-cultural fingers&#8230;</p>
<p>More details here: <a href="http://webdelsol.com/Other_Voices/ovbookssubmissions.htm">OV Books Announces Its Third Title</a></p>
<p>Via <a href="http://www.52projects.com/">Friend Jeff</a>, via <a href="http://www.feliciasullivan.com/">Felicia Sullivan</a>.</p>
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